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Offline Taryn

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Wagon repair questions
« on: January 23, 2008, 10:37:15 PM »
I have been taught different ways it seems on how to repair a wagon, from the leather straps that cover the wagon wheels, to repairing the roof on the wagon...

The main question I have is, if there is a tear or rip in the hide of the wagon roof, how would I go about repairing it? I do know that if the damage is more than just a tear or rip, I would have to remove the damaged hide, which is half of the dome of the wagon roof, and replace it with another one, using nails to secure it to the roof beams of the wagon... But what I am confused about, is that some are saying that you use glue to repair tears or small rips in the hide... I would think glue wouldn't be a viable thing, as when it got wet or the moisture collected around the repair sight, the glue would dissolve and the repair sight... Also, I have also seen and heard a few using an awl to punch holes in the hide to stitch the hide together where it's ripped or torn... though I might have gotten that part wrong... I have always just sown the rip/tear together with a strong leather bone needle...

As for the rest, how would you go about repairing the leather straps of a wagon wheel, is it three or four straps tacked down, or what? I know Raziel showed me how to do it a few years back, but I don't have access to the script at the present time...

And as for the wagon platform boards... how would you go about either repairing boards that are either warped, cracked or splintering?

Just a few questions I have been trying to remember or figure out over the past few days...

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Re: Wagon repair questions
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2008, 03:30:42 AM »
Info comming.  ;)

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Re: Wagon repair questions
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2008, 04:01:37 PM »
Hi Taryn

As Rags said, more info is coming, but to answer a few things, it all depends on where the tear is.  dakota was working on a new awning over a porch and not the dome itself so we basically had him stitching two pieces of hide together with the intent of replacing the awning.  Unfortunately, I got taken away by r/t that night, and he thought it was a patch and applied it as such. With bosk hide, you can't just push a needle through it.  Like cowhide, it's too tough....an awl or a leather punch would have to be used first to place the holes and then it can be sewn.  It's not inconceivable to use glue to reinforce the seams.  Remember that the hide has to be sealed and then it's painted, so the sealant may protect the glue (I'm just brainstorming on that bit, I'm sure Rags can add more).  How the hide is actually attached, I am not sure, I have to defer to Rags on that one!  Would they have used nails, of stretched it over the frame and then sewn the last seam?  That's a bit beyond my leatherworking knowledge!

The straps around the wheels are one long piece.  It is soaked in water and then placed on the rim and, I assume nailed down.  As the leather dries it tightens on the wheel giving it a nice tight fit.  (Rags will correct me if I misunderstood that one!)

I don't know much about platform repair.  Wood is scarce.  Not sure we would replace the entire board, or just the damaged section and then seal it with pitch.  Again, I have to defer to Rags on that one.

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Re: Wagon repair questions
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2008, 11:38:13 AM »
 I may be able to help somewhat with the third question, about the platform planking.  I know next to nothing about leatherworking, but I do know wood, at least RT. Planking which is too warped to use would need to be replaced, though the plank itself could still be repurposed elsewhere (such as perhaps split into smaller pieces for crating, arrowshafts if the warping is along the grain, etc. etc.). The affected planks would each need to be carefully pried up, the nails saved for reuse (since Tuchuks waste nothing, not even nails), and the new planking laid in place, nailed down (3-4 nails at each end, and a like number anywhere the planking overlays a structural member), and then sealed with pitch or wax (pitch is better but wax will do in a pinch).
 Split wood can be sealed temporarily with pitch (NOT wax, because wax will expand as it cools and will split the wood further). The repaired wood could then be left in place until the split becomes too severe for the board to be used any longer, at which time it would need to be replaced.
 As for the splintered wood... that depends on how bad the splintering is. If the board is basically good but is jsut producing splinters, that is normal for wood and can be ignored or waxed over, or the board can be planed smooth and then sealed. If the board is splintered as in busted such as by an axe blow or other impact, all the pieces of the shattered plank must be pried up and set aside as perviously mentioned, the nails pried out of the plank and/or out of the underlying beams (in places where the pieces of plank fell out), then the new planking installed as above.
 If I should be incorrect on any of this, Ubar will correct Me I'm sure *w*. Hope the information is helpful!

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« Last Edit: February 07, 2008, 11:40:14 AM by Arlon »