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Offline RAGNAR

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Re: I need help, advice, opinions
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2008, 12:13:49 PM »
Can not bear the thought of losing your Son.... yet you wish to die and lose everything.

HELLO...??!!!

Sis... you are loved very much, but suck it up.

Raz and Shy pretty much said it all.

Life is not fair. It can be harsh and challenging at times. You already know this.

Your death will only make it harder for everyone around you and who love you.

Now... is this about him.... or yourself?

Even tough love can exist... and not diminish the love itself.

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Re: I need help, advice, opinions
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2008, 12:24:40 PM »
i understand well, the pain that fills You.. seems to define Your existance..
and it is hard to bear..but You can do it..

focus. look to the far horizon..see the oppertunity for a good and heathly
life You have created for Your son..take pride in the Motherly strenghth
that has guided You to this decesion..

It took a strong Woman to do what You have done

It took a loving Mother to make the choice.

Use that stregth, .. use that love.. hold on.. You CAN do it.

i don't have a phone or an IM to talk to You with..but i am in the room
alot.. and there for You if You want me..

You know which room i'm talking about...

The Home, where You are loved and treasured for the special person You are.

take care Mistress



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 You can  only touch the  fire and be seared by it,  even destroyed  in it's embrace, but never can you hold it, not for a heartbeat.

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Re: I need help, advice, opinions
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2008, 12:46:58 PM »
please check your messages here on the boards.....

and know, you ARE loved

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Re: I need help, advice, opinions
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2008, 01:00:24 PM »
-reads this sadly and offers you a smile-

=steps OOC here because this is from One Mother to Another=

I've not had the pleasure of meeting you yet.. and tho I play a slave in TMC.. I am very much a Free alive person here at this keyboard.. who has been where you are... Honestly... my youngest son who is now soon to be 23 was ADHD with a learning disability on top of that... Common God given sense he was fine.. but he had a memory problem.. and so me being a teacher.. having two older children who were A honor roll students.. hit a brick wall suddenly.. with this child of mine...and I was devastated...I watched my baby...my last..since I'd lost the ability due to an emergency surgery that took my ability to have children at the age of 21 away... I watched him grow more and more frustrated by the day.. and my hands were tied.. the school tried this and that and that and this.. and still nothing helped.. and finally I'd had enough and I began fighting for him.. to get him into a full time ESE program...and finally by the 4th grade I'd done so.. he was barely reading on a pre-primer[kindergarten] level and his teachers.. stupid me for allowing it.. said he needed ridlin...

sighs.. I blindly believed and followed like a sheep to the slaughter...and put my baby on that crap...and my baby became my zombie kid.. who wouldn't eat and lost weight and was still struggling... we were always fighting, I rode him like a bat out of hades.. I knew he could do better.. IF he wanted to... I love him.. I beat him.. I punished him.. I loved him.. I yelled at him.. I cried.. I died.. a million times over feeling his problems as my failure...and after two months removed him from the ritlin and told him.. his behavior was up to him... he didn't have to rely on medicine to make him behave.. he had a CHOICE to make.. a choice to be have or a choice to be bad...... I'd found a book...on tough love.. and I read it.. I read everything I could get my hands on... the battle raged in my home.. in my life.. in my mind and in my heart... and I felt daily I'd dropped the ball...but.. during it ALL.... one thing my son will tell you.... I loved him...a poem he wrote...that honored me as Mother of the Year in our Church.. nearly broke my heart... because all this time I thought I was failing.. I was giving him...what he needed

Here is a copy word for word.. written just as he had written.. spelling and all

My mom is special because she helps me with every thing, She is teaching me to be kind to others. I thing my mom is the best mom in the world, If I need help on my homework or eney other stuff she will help me, I try to be the best I can be, wher ever I am just for my mom

 My mom is my hero, She gives me what I need if she things I need it, I hope my mom don't die ever, but I know that ever body has to go some time, unlees the Lord comes before that time gets hear, I love you Mom and I will always love you.

Name  Kenny
age 11
Grade 5th

-looks at you through my tears- my son is going to be 23 this month.. He is a good looking well loved young man... set and working making good money.. has a wonderful girl friend.. and a future ahead.... your son.. will to.. if you hold on.. love him... and forgive you....

Other than the Love of God there is not more perfect love than a Mother for her child .. and a child for its mother... even through the hard times.... He is depending on you.. same as mine depended on me... Fight for him... you are the ONLY one who will.... he needs you to be strong for him....

I know its not easy.. I know for a fact... but I also know if I can do it you can do it.... if you ever need to talk.. ever need an ear.... words of encouragement or wisdom.. my PM is open to you.. and I will send you my number to call me if you wish....  Don't let darkness or what ever come against you and rob your son... take charge of him and his life.... be his everything...

Be his Hero....


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Re: I need help, advice, opinions
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2008, 01:06:48 PM »
Sorry all. Could not remember my old password, nor do I have that email anymore. But, I felt a need to respond here so strong I had to at least create a new account to do so.

Sis, I have a situation somewhat similar to yours, at least in the end result. I have a child that thinks they hate me, at least for now. Let me explain, if you will give me the patience...

You see, I have 3 children. A boy, the oldest at 24, and two daughters 21 and 17. The older daughter used to give me fits. Hung out with a strange crowd (The Goth kids with 2 pounds of metal in their face, dog collars, and even the boys wear black fingernail polish), and forever getting into trouble. Some of those here may remember a few occasions when I would have to leave camp to look for her as she would run off.

Now, my youngest would always say "I am never gonna do the things that she (the oldest daughter) done". and for the longest time she did not. Actually, she was quite the daddies girl. Then she got herself hooked up with a bad boy about a year and a half ago. You know the type, wants to live the "Thug Life", gangbanger wannabe, pants so low they show a good 6 inches of his underwear. We of course went round and round about this. It got so bad that at one point I had to call 911 to have him removed as he was threatening to hit me with a chain, and had already severely cussed my elderly parents. This all started because I caught him sneaking through her window (stupid kids, they think we are deaf?) Anyway, that kept him away awhile, as the cops informed him one foot on my property meant decent jail time for him.

Now, I must admit this made me happy...for awhile. You see, my daughter came up pregnant at 16. She would constantly run away, and repeatedly reported us to Child Protection Services for abuse of one sort or another, even though each time there was absolutely no evidence. She was just intet on tearing us apart, is all. As much of a shock and hardship that this was (we are poor, and have little monies. In fact we are still fighting collectors over her medical expenses), we still moved forward. Offered to help with the baby as much as we can, and still put her at least the rest of the way through high school. I even went so far as to bury the hatchet with her boy, seeing as I could see no way to keep him away, and he did seem interested in caring for the baby. Well, as long as it did not cost him anything anyway....

I'll try and shorten this. Longwindedness is a fault of mine, as many of you know. Baby was born, and lived here. We did everything we could, and things were not to bad considering. Well, so I thought. Wife calls me bawling. Seems daughter and boyfriend had been bullying my wife into doing what they wanted behind my back. I gave the girl a choice...stay and we will continue to help, but there are rules, or go..her choice. Well, she left. She tells everyone I threw her out, which I did not. Refuses to speak to me at all, and will not let us see the grandbaby whom we had grown very attached to in the 5 mos she lived here. Has even went so far as to post my picture on her Myspace with a caption reading "My sperm donor".

I cannot explain how bad this hurts me. Remember, not long ago she was a daddies baby, and now...And the tears I have shed could fill a sea. Trust me, if a man says he does not cry, he is a frakkin liar. Men just hide it more is all. Sometimes the grief from this is almost more than I can bear. But, deep down, I know I done the right thing. And, I believe it may all just work out in time. Remember the older daughter? Well she is now a US Marine serving in Yuma AZ with a beautiful son of her own. My wife and I just returned from a weeks visit there a couple weeks back. First thing she did was say "Dad, I am so sorry...I know now how it must have felt for you". We are very proud of her.

Anyway, all this rambling was to say hang in there and stand tough. You know it is best, and one day your son will too.

And for added help, I will certainly keep you in my prayers

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Re: I need help, advice, opinions
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2008, 10:17:23 AM »
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